Chapter 6
Dishonest Challenges to Neo-Tech
From: market@chinadirect.com
Subject: Re: Trying to understand KOAH's objections
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 22:51:17 GMT
Amazing how this totally dishonest person is parading around under the banner of honesty.
Challenge
Anonymous wrote:
China YHBT - the Ultimate Hose!' for the story on how he came to believe that he had the goods on me. But to make it crystal clear: I am not an unemployed ex-postal worker living on disability checks. I was just yanking his chain. YHBT means 'You Have Been Trolled'
Response
So KOAH, you are either a liar or you're an unemployed, ex-postal worker. I suspect that you are both -- an unemployed, ex-postal worker who is also a liar. PS, As Peikoff identified, once an individual has been caught in a lie, that person must then go to extraordinary links to establish the credibility of anything he asserts in the future. Thus, you must now prove to me that you are employed if you expect me to believe that you really are. I now need to know: 1)Exactly what job it is you have 2)The name of your employer and his phone number for employment verification purposes. --J. Hampton
From: nrich@ss-n.com
Subject: Re: YHBT - the Ultimate Hose!
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 16:14:06 GMT
Pkitty@cris.com (Pee Kitty) wrote:
Challenge
They've been duped by KOAH the whole time.
Response
The official posts make it pretty obvious that what is meant is that he's serving their interests. I concur completely with that assessment.
I believe the material speaks for itself and is valuable. KOAH has probably led many to go check out the website. He believes he's effective in turning people off to it rather than on. I think he's mistaken. Time will tell.
NTP has been explicit about two other specific and valuable things KOAH has accomplished. Check the posts.
If my assessment is correct, then who, in reality has really been duped? Remember, KOAH's stated goal is to sway people from doing business with NTP. NTP's goal is not to destroy KOAH. Their goal is simply to get as much business as possible. Has KOAH hurt that, helped it, or had no net effect? None of us know for certain. And consider the long-term. NTP has definite staying power, and turned the KOAH material into saleable literature. Think about it. Think in terms of business. If you were in NTP's shoes, wouldn't you like to have a KOAH around calling attention to your stuff? I sure would.
Again, time will tell.
Challenge
Assuming he's telling the truth about writing that message, of course. But I have yet to catch KOAH in a lie, so I believe him.
Response
Emailing someone telling them you're someone you're not, that you're retired when you're not, that you worked for the post office when you didn't, that you're disabled when you're not, that you collect a government check when you don't, and that you live someplace that you don't is not a lie(s)?
Conclusive evidence that KOAH really has no clue as to what we're all about.
Incidentally, hits on the NT site(s) are higher than ever. It never was the goal to primarily lure Objectivists, libs, individuals to the site. Puny, nearly worthless market. Rather, NTP used all those people to create new, cyber-oriented literature in order to be more relevant and marketable to the net-community at large. NT and NTP is now back in quiet and purposeful mode.
KOAH, the person, is now so insignificant as to barely be worth responding to. He'll realize this soon enough as n-t becomes increasingly barren of small-value minutiae in the form of posts he's able to launch campaigns against. To get an idea of how desperate he is for something new and sensational, look how he jumped on my personal website for chrissakes. Desperation indeed.
Challenge
In article <199609250233.TAA08128@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu>, nobody@cypherpunks.ca (John Anonymous MacDonald) wrote:
My, my, my. This newsgroup is certainly barren since the creation of h.p.o.! Almost as if it really was nothing but a loathsome bloodsucking leech of a group feeding on the reputation of Objectivism as many had speculated.
King of all Heretics
Response
<market@chinadirect.com> wrote:
The Singapore government has censored all Neo-Tech/Zon web sites. Singapore citizens have all access to these sites blocked. Neo-Tech/Zon must be doing something right to so ruffle the government's feathers.
Challenge
To infer that someone is doing something right, because of the actions of another, one needs context. What are some of the elements in this instance?
Response
Well, we know that the NT literature is chock full of information which suggest to it's readership that governments are not primary, have no moral authority, are in many cases destructive, and are most often run by tyrants.
So, one immediately asks one's self: why would a government wish to censor NT literature? The obvious answer is that NT literature is anti-government in many instances. Further, it's anti-government stance is morality based, which is to say that governments constitute the most dangerous of criminals now populating our planet.
So, if you agree that in general, the NT position of government is largely or wholly correct, then you would infer that they are doing something right if they are censored by the very sorts of people they attack.
So basically, I would judge that the censorship of NT on hpo and in Singapore adds more to the heap of mounting evidence that NT literature does indeed threaten the status of all false authorities everywhere. If you believe that the facts of reality lead to the conclusion that the individual is primary, not external authorities, then such additional facts provide evidence that your conclusion is correct, since the ones doing the censoring are the very false authorities you're making a case against.
The Internet provides such a platform.
Thus, cyberspace guarantees the eventual success of NT (fully integrated honesty) and guarantees the eventual downfall of false authorities in the form of neocheating (fully integrated dishonesty).
Nicholas Rich Sachs, Savage & Noble, S.A.
nrich@ss-n.com
Challenge
John Anonymous MacDonald wrote:
If I was a follower of ZonPower I wouldn't go around calling anyone a shmuck.
King of all Heretics
Response
I hate to break this news to you, but you happen to be the biggest follower of ZonPower on this newsgroup. --Dr. Moreau
Disclaimer - Copyright - Contact
Online: buildfreedom.org - terrorcrat.com - mind-trek.com