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On Usenet in early 1996, KOAH, a "jobless ex-postal worker living off government checks", anonymously posted hundreds of embittered, envious attacks on successful value-and-job producers and competitive business. He also declared across the Internet his desires for limitless, promiscuous sex. Then, between blizzards of uncontrolled Tourette-like sexual profanities, he publicly posted his intentions to murder U.S. army officers and nuke an American city filled with innocent citizens and children. According to legal counsel, that post constituted a domestic-terrorist threat of murder publicly made over the Internet -- a serious crime. For that criminal act, he could face both state and federal felony charges upon revealing his identity.
Later in 1996, that envy-embittered "ex-postal employee" carrying a virtual-reality AK-47 reappeared on the Internet to emphasize his passion for mass murder as shown in his post quoted below:
>In article <4jgqpc$p6r@utopia.hacktic.nl>, nobody@flame.alias.net >(Anonymous) wrote:
>> I would destroy the entire universe rather than live as a slave. >> And you can quote me on that.
<snip>
>> Ah - so I have nihilistic "tendencies" now. >> Nihilism is the belief in NOTHING. >> I believe in all sorts of things very strongly. >> I might be a terrifyingly immoral egoist from the point of view of >> communitarian and altruist moral codes, but I'm no nihilist. >> I am something MUCH, MUCH WORSE!
King of all Heretics (KOAH) vs. Neo-Tech FAQ version 0.001c
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Disclaimer: This FAQ claims nothing about KOAH. It just asks questions and presents some of his own material that he posted himself. Decide for yourself if he is a stable person or not.
Note: to submit a question or answer to this FAQ, send email to mattkeys@netcom.com
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[ material obtained from http://dejanews.com, search for King of all Heretics, look for old articles, before Koah became "nice" ]
*** side note: as you read these articles by KOAH, keep in mind Betsy and a few others on a.p.o were encouraging his reckless spastic attacks on Neo-Tech the whole time. see q4) for more.
QUESTIONS: ----------
q0) who or what is KOAH (King of all Heretics)? why does KOAH attack neo-tech?
q1) does KOAH really want to nuke innocent citizens?
q2) does KOAH really want to have unearned sex with every orifice possible?
q3) more evidence for q1 and q2
q4) do Objectivists and others really cheer on KOAH?? (read about a.p.o "leader" Betsy Speicher's supplying KOAH with bogus info here)
q5) Will Neo-Tech ever file the class-action lawsuit?
note: to skip ahead to an answer, search for q[number], for exmaple, to read the answer to q5, search for "q5".
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q0) who or what is KOAH (King of all Heretics)? why does KOAH attack neo-tech?
J. Hampton writes:
WHO IS THE KING OF ALL HERETICS (KOAH)?
Who is King of all Heretics (KOAH)? He appears to be a vindictive, bitter man who has a personal vendetta against the Neo-Tech Philosophy and its authors. Neo-Tech means fully integrated honesty. Neo-Tech also promotes the idea that everyone, intellectuals and philosophers included, should move into a high-effort, business-like mode to produce commercially competitive values for oneself and society. ...It seems that this high-effort, commercial philosophy threatens KOAH's low-effort, academic existence. Thus, he has embarked upon a dishonest, Dan Rather-like attack on Neo-Tech and its authors. Besides being out of context, non-objective, and dishonest, many of KOAH's statements are downright neurotic. One questions his mental stability. See selected quotes from past KOAH postings below. --J. Hampton
Huge Cajones Remailer wrote: > > barbied666@aol.com (Dr. Wally in drag) didn't post anything, but I'll > reply anyway... > > Hey Wally! Whatsamatta? Can't resist the urge to appear in drag as > "Barbie Diamond?" You fucking freak, transsexual, cross-dressing, > pervert faggot! Maybe one day cloning will be real (no thanks to a > phony like you of course) and you will be able to make a clone > of yourself that you can dress up and fuck yourself up the ass > and then suck your own dick, lick the shit off and give yourself > Aids you fucking queer. Got any cross-dressers on the NT Porno > Page yet? >
John Anonymous MacDonald wrote: > Why thank you. I'm glad you find me amusing while I'm fucking your > gOOrOO up the ass.
>A man gets raped because he can't defend himself from his attacker. >Wally is in a completely defenseless position, and can not defend >himself from attack. Whether he is fucked in the skull or in the ass >is really of no consequence.
> I don't always talk about fucking everyone up the ass. I talk about > fucking everyone in the SKULL! (snip) > As in: 'I am gonna defeat you > so badly it will be as if I were fucking your daddy Wally Ward's filthy > skull!' > - King of all Heretics
>YHBT you fucking moron. > Get used to it. >- King of all Heretics
> You have no fucking idea who you are dealing with asshole. > That is why you fail. > - King of all Heretics
> But now here I am in your fucking face asshole. > Hey Ward, choke on it. > - King of all Heretics
>WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO STOP CRYING ABOUT BEING KICKED OUT >OF THE OBJECTIVIST SANDBOX (HPO) AND GET ON WITH TOPPLING >ALL OF THE ANTI-CIVILIZATION? YOU FUCKING BABY! >-A Completely Separate Entity (ACSE 10/29/96)
> Oh yes Wally - I've got your fucking number. > - King of all Heretics
> Hey dickwad - starting to feel like the loser you are? (snip) > having your worthless ass kicked by an > anonymous wiseass who pisses on your cult constantly while you just lay > back and take it like a gutless little pussy? > YOU LOSE FUCKFACE! > I can tell you're a fucking loser by the miserable look on your face in > those horrible pictures you had the poor taste to put on your website. (snip) > Catch you later Mr. Limpet! > - King of all Heretics
> Oh no. KOAH is a > stupid fish because he donated all that time RIPPING WALLY A NEW ASSHOLE > which is of course part of Neo-Crap's GRAND STRATEGY OF WORLD CONQUEST! > The more people FUCK WALLY'S FILTHY STINKING SKULL the more Wally wins! > Yeah, that's it, that's the ticket... > - King of all Heretics
> Would you buy a used philosophy from this man? > -Editor, The Fuck Zon Gazette
> What's the matter PUSSY, can't GET IT UP? Is your omnipotent virtual > sooper dooper thinkon energy field collapsing in the face of my awesome > power? > Stand and deliver motherfucker - or shut the fuck up. > Keeping smoking that doobie. > Keep smoking Wally's cock.
> You are a grovelling, bootlicking little pissant. > You know nothing about me. > Remember, Neo-Smegma got their theory that I was an umemployed postal > worker FROM MY OWN TROLL OF WALLACE WARD!(snip) > Dumbfucks! > - King of all Heretics
> Your little dupe is making you look like a complete fucking retard. > - King of all Heretics
>They declared their intention to 'take over' a newsgroup I was posting to >(alt.philosophy.objectivism) with their off-topic, irrational, endlessly >repeated idiotic templates and various other shoddy usenet advertising >schemes. So I told them that if they did not cease and desist from this >boorish behaviour they would face a shitstorm beyond their imagination. >They ignored my warning and persisted in their netiquette-defying >actions and so they are now reaping the consequences of their unethical >conduct. You see I enjoy this sort of thing and they made the mistake of >wandering into my field of vision.
> Yes, it's like I'm fucking the filthy skull of L. Ron Hubbard and he's > still alive and reading usenet and being personally humiliated in front of > his own stupid, clueless followers! > You can't beat the feelin'! > - King of all Heretics
J. Hampton writes:
The reason KOAH hates NTP is because he is green with envy that NTP has been able to make a profitable business out of selling the life-enhancing concepts of objectivism/libertarianism/freedom to working segments of the population never before exposed to these concepts. KOAH believes in these same concepts, but he is supremely jealous of NTP for being commercially successful at promoting them while he hasn't been. ...Similar to the way Donald Trump hates Las Vegas' Steve Wynn for outcompeting him in the casino/hotel business. Similar to the way many computer/software businesses hate Microsoft for commercially outcompeting them. In fact, I rather enjoy watching the KOAH pip writhe in furious, jealous pain. You can almost feel KOAH giving himself an ulcer over his envious frustration at NTP's commercial success. --J. Hampton
J. Hampton writes: > > >You're just a do-nothing loser > >that sits around criticising and gossiping about everyone else. -JH > > Prove it. > - King of all Heretics
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAY, IT'S WHAT YOU DO THAT COUNTS. ALL YOU DO IS ATTACK THE PRODUCTIVE ACHIEVEMENTS OF OTHERS. YOU HAVE ACHIEVED NOTHING YOURSELF KOAH.
[ since KOAH never responded listing any of his achievements, we can only conclude he has never achieved anything himself ]
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J. Hampton writes:
John Anonymous MacDonald wrote: > > I've told you a great deal. > Of course none of it will help you identify me! > - King of all Heretics
Hey KOAH, I identified you on my very first try. Once again, you are an underachieving loser who attempts to get feelings of self-importance by attacking those who are in a high-effort, value-producing mode. --J. Hampton
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Nicholas Rich writes:
In article <199610110501.WAA11405@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu>, KOAH is nobody@cypherpunks.ca (John Anonymous MacDonald) wrote:
> I hunt cult founders for sport Nick.
So does Ward. You have something in common. But he does it in a productive sense. He makes marketable products out of his hunts, allowing him to increase the size/scope of them. Ward has gone after the biggest cult of all--destructive government. You're a pansie, do-not-much in comparison.
In fact, seen in that light, as two competitors with essentially the same goal--to bring down perceived evil--renders your actions more comprehensible. You want the market, and you're frustrated knowing you're never going to get it. What's more, Ward has already been instrumental in successfully turning more people away from bullshit artists than you'll ever even begin to do yourself. Ward is actually *in business,* making money at it. You are still incompetently pursuing it as a mere hobby. Wasting so much time which could be put to good business use. Pathetic.
In the end, you will totally fail for the simple reason that you've picked a bad target. The fact is, and what you can't possibly know is that as much as some of the supporters and posters may appear cultish or as seekers of authority, they are many steps closer to independence from where they were before. What's more, they have a respect for reason and facts that they never had before.
Anyone can be smeared. You know that. I know that. You have the "skill" to smear Mother Teresa (perhaps a bad example, but you get the point) if you set out to. People have been smearing Rand for years. Ward too.
But reality is what is. And those who have read and benefited from NT, and continue to benefit as a never-ending process, from dependence to independence, know who they are, know how they have benefited, generally know where they need to be/go, and know that it is a far-sight better than where they were. The path is not straight, nor is the walk perfect. But NT is dynamic, and every step generally reflects reality in a slightly better way than before.
That's what it's all about. It's about increasingly reflecting reality through honesty and effort. No one is doing it perfectly. But those who are doing it, know they are doing it, and they know why. They know where they were, where they are now, and where they are going. They know *how* they got to where they are, and who deserves credit in being instrumental in spuring on the journey.
All the smears in the world won't change what they themselves know.
You may turn around and parallel what I've said here with a religion. Be my guest. Be sure and mention the defining fundamental difference between the "Church of NT" and all others. All others move people from relative independence to increasing dependence. NT moves people from relative dependence to increasing independence.
Nicholas Rich Sachs, Savage & Noble, S.A. nrich@ss-n.com adr@ss-n.com
Take the legal system away from the lawyers - http://www.ss-n.com ( and make money doing it - http://www.ss-n.com/affiliat.htm )
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Think1st wrote:
Anonymous (nobody@flame.alias.net) wrote: : Neo-Tech Skeptic FAQ : Alpha release .04 : by King of all Heretics
KOAH, you have far too much invested in this to re-evaluate your position. I can see that after reading your entire FAQ (it's funny to see what you've chosen to include, and what you've chosen to omit... and very telling).
I never quite understood the reasoning behind labelling you a psychotic or a nihilist, because I didn't pay that close attention to everything you wrote. I've always thought you were a bright guy with a generally objective, honest, rational approach to life, who just happened to get a wild hair up his ass that made him disregard any and all rational objectivity when focusing on Neo-Tech.
Now I see why they labelled you that way. I can't help but wonder who you are, and how you're going to take it on the day you finally see your fatal flaw (the fact that you forgot to check your premises, and ended up basing EVERYTHING on a flawed premise).
Life is amazing, dude. We're here for such a brief flicker, and then its gone. We have such a limited time to make everything we want to happen happen.
Don't waste it like this. I know you're going to disregard me, and that's your prerogative, but I see in some of your posts (especially your earlier posts) a pretty cool guy with a solid head on his shoulders, and think about what you could accomplish in your life.
Fuck Neo-Tech, dude. It's not worth wasting your life attacking it. Just forget about it.
Since I'm a proponent of NT, you'll no doubt think I'm trying an alternate means of getting you to stop attacking, and you'll just heighten your attack, figuring you're "onto something." So, you'll keep attacking more and more and louder and louder, getting deeper and deeper into the trap. You're like a fly that can't escape a web whose construction you won't even comprehend (though you CAN, by just looking a bit more closely at it).
I used to think your silly attacks were funny and a waste of time, but I didn't realize to what lengths you've gone, and I can't help but feel sorry for you. It's like watching a bear with his leg caught in a trap, as he salivates over eating his trappers for lunch, and every move tears at his leg, but he doesn't even notice because he's got hungry eyes.
You're in the trap because you forgot to check your premises. Check them, dude. Try to distance yourself from the material long enough to approach it fresh, and re-evaluate it objectively.
I know this post has no hope of achieving its objective, but I felt compelled to send it anyway. I love life and rationality too much not to.
Re-read the .sig at the end of my post, dude, seriously. You see it so much, you never read it anymore. Read it and think about each word in it. It's 13 words that you can use to avoid all future traps.
Especially the trap of your own irrationality.
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q1) does KOAH really want to nuke innocent citizens?
read his post and decide for yourself:
Subject: Re: Objectivist enemies of open debate From: nobody@flame.alias.net (Anonymous) Date: 1996/04/05 Organization: Flame International Inc. Newsgroups: alt.philosophy.objectivism,alt.support.ex-Cult,alt.neo-Tech
> >> He is absolutely the worst sort of destructive nihilist. And in his own > >> words, there are circumstances where he would personally explode a nuke in > >> a populated city. > > > > There are circumstances where _you_ might do the same. > > Nihilism cannot be determined by listing various shocking actions a > >person might take - you must establish that the person is without ethical > >principles and philosophical beliefs. > > I have been quite clear that I do subscribe to a moral code. > > It just isn't in alignment with what most social systems and > >superstitious religions have deemed moral during recorded history. > > There are _no_ circumstances that would cause me to purposely end the life > of _any_ individual who was not _directly_ and _purposely_ thretening my > life. > > In your example, you stated that if you should be drafted, you would seek > about to murder your commanding officer and everyone up the chain of > command--apparently without regard to whether they happen to be caught in > the same draft as you, with the same gun to their heads.
So they're just following orders, eh? Tell it to Adolph Eichmann.
> You also stated that you would attempt to acquire a nuclear bomb and > explode it in a populated city, if drafted into military service--aparently > without regard to the indesputable fact that well over 99.9% of that > poupulation of individual, living, conscious beings (including thousands of > totally innocent children) have no _direct_, _individual_, _conscious_ > involvement in your being drafted.
Ah - but they are part of the leftist 'social contract' - they elect demopublicans who ALL share the premise that I should be enslaved.
I refrain from any action regarding this so long as my LIFE is not threatened. But if I am drafted ALL BETS ARE OFF. The line is crossed.
The draft is a declaration of total war on me. The only way to avoid this is to refrain from enslaving me.
I would destroy the entire universe rather than live as a slave. And you can quote me on that.
> Unless you dispute having said this, I think anyone would be well advised > to consider what a whimpish, unstable, wild-eyed lunatic you are and refuse > to deal with you in any context. > > >> Once I saw that, I realized for good what his psychology was all about. > >> He can't fool anyone anymore. > > > > Nihilist is not a psychological term. > > It refers to a lack of belief in anything. > > I am not a nihilist. > > I absolutely believe in myself. > > - King of all Heretics > > It is a certain psychology which gives rise to nihilistic tendencies, and > you display them in spades.
Ah - so I have nihilistic 'tendencies' now. Nihilism is the belief in NOTHING. I believe in all sorts of things very strongly. I might be a terrifyingly immoral egoist from the point of view of communitarian and altruist moral codes, but I'm no nihilist. I am something MUCH, MUCH WORSE!
- King of all Heretics
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q2) does KOAH really want to have unearned sex with every orifice possible?
koah writes:
> Oh, and if I was able to ensure that I wouldn't catch anything from sexual > contact, and that I could protect my partners 100% from pregnancy risks, > I would probably join KOAH on his coast-to-coast orgy of promiscuous sex. > Because I live in reality though... One partner at a time for me.
They say to search for the words 'promiscuous sex' and my psuedonym to find my outrageous statements, but I wouldn't use that term. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're misinterpreting my views about sociobiology as a blanket endorsement of orgies.
The Neo-Techers seem to think that they can alter the balance of forces in the net war decisively in their favor by violating my privacy (which they show their intent to do even if they reveal the wrong name). They again show very little understanding of net culture.
They are very confused.
I am not trapped in combat with them, they are trapped in combat with me. Remember AB!
- King of all Heretics
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q3) wait, there's more info for q1 and q2:
> > - King of all Heretics > >P.S. By the way Bradley, you can go fuck off too. Put on your Spock ears > >and watch some Star trek reruns like a good little boy and go away. > > Template for a Bloody Psychopath > In early March, 1996, this anonymous psychopath publicly announced on > Usenet his desires for limitless, no-value promiscuous sex.
Wahoo! By the way, that sounds pretty good, but I don't recall stating a desire for limitless _no-value_ promiscuous sex. :)
> Then, between blizzards of uncontrolled Tourette-like sexual profanities,
What the fuck are you talking about cocksucker? Hee hee hee hee!
> he proclaimed across Usenet his intentions to murder innocent U.S. army > officers and nuke an American city filled with innocent citizens and > children.
You can't make an omelette...
> Currently, this coward is desperately trying to conceal his newly exposed > criminalities with a torrent of smoothed-over, nice-guy posts.
I still proudly state that I would kill any army officer foolish enough to try and command me were I drafted.
By drafting me they sign their own death warrents. How is this 'nice'? I'm not 'nice.' I'm your worst nightmare.
> But, make no mistake, if an unstable person like him somehow got a nuke, he > would incinerate a U.S. city in order to feel important enough to get > girls.
By the way 'Barbie', are you one of Wallace Ward's mooching relatives or one of his gullible dupes? - King of all Heretics
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q4) do Objectivists really cheer on KOAH??
here is one sad example:
In article <4e96t5$bq6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Betsy Speicher <betsy@speicher.com> wrote:
>Anonymous <anon-remailer@utopia.hacktic.nl> wrote: > >> Wallace, creator of the Neo-Tech/ZonPower cult. I will be scanning this >> group and alt.neo-tech for any information on him. If you have such >> information, please post it with the words "ATTN: KOAH" in the header. > >I have a HUGE amount of information for you, but it is much too >voluminous to post here. Can I e-mail it to you? (I tried to e-mail it, >but it bounced.)> > Betsy Speicher
here's another:
> >As you can see, _I've_ pulled you out of the kill file and my apologies for > >jumping too quickly to judgement. After seeing the unbelievable rants and > >raves of the Neo_kooks I had no choice! _I_ certainly would not have > >blocked your posts to _everyone_! (At least not _that_ way, I'm an old unix > >junkie and would've cooked up an indetectable kill-bot or something!) > > > >I'm _not_ one of those who think that Objectivism is a closed system. On > >this point I agree with Kelly - much work needs to be done. > > > >I _still_ think your incredible profanity isn't needed, but it looks like > >nothing less is going to stop the Neo-Kooks. More power to you - keep up > >the good fight! >
here's another:
>From: Betsy Speicher <betsy@speicher.com> >Newsgroups: alt.neo-tech >Subject: ATTN KOAH >Date: 21 May 1996 05:46:01 -0700 >Organization: SCOA CyberNet scoa@speicher.com > > >A third party with info for your FAQ is trying to reach you through me. > >(Has something to do with the relationship between Nick Rich and NTP and >other matters). >
and another (by a non-objectivist)
In article <4jsbif$i5k@shiva.usa.net>, talisman@mail.usa.net (talisman) wrote: > In article <4joc56$4o0@utopia.hacktic.nl>, > nobody@flame.alias.net (Anonymous) wrote: > >In article <4ic24h$7hi@panix2.panix.com>, tdonadio@panix.com (Tony > >Donadio) wrote: > >> > >> The point I am making is that your posts seemed to assume that > >> this was a > >> general sentiment or "party line" amongst us -- and that this was > >> a rather > >> hasty an erroneous generalization. > > > > I think I've clarified this. > > I was a bit mad when I made the original rant. > > Naturally those who don't approve of the blocking are not > > deserving of > > my wrath on this matter. > > - King of all Heretics > > King, > > I think there are a lot more people who support you than you know. > Besides, you're one of the only ones who can communicate in an > entertaining manner.
Thanks.
> Most others sound like they've got a stick up > their ...
Or as I once put it 'the most boring people on earth.'
> Those who do not post anonymously probably fear to associate > themselves with you, even if they agree, because even with your anon > status, you're still getting threatened and abused.
Not only that, they might end up the subject of a Neo-Tech template!
- King of all Heretics
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q5) Will Neo-Tech ever file the class-action lawsuit?
ether1@netcom.com wrote:
The IRS Class-Action lawsuit will be filed when the necessary number of plaintiffs with sufficient credible evidence is secured. Timing and qualifying plaintiffs are the determining factors when the suit will be filed.
They currently have a major appellant brief before the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals (Case # 96-70117) challenging the concept and use of killer IRS penalties. They also have two lawsuits in Federal District Court which are testing governmental immunity.
The lawsuit will move aggressively and publicly with an expected favorable ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals.
They are also organizing the Abuse Reports into a public document to work with Congressmen and Committees wanting to reform or eliminate the IRS.
They are carrying the ball for everyone against the destructive IRS laws, regulations, and procedures at much personal risk, time, expense. What are you pips -- especially that EDU "lawyer" -- doing about anything important except sniping and pipping those who are standing up against the government monolith to make life better for everyone?
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